As reported by Sydney Morning Herald and The Age (as well as Gizmodo, SmartCompany, and others), we're going to have a Kogan Google Android phone available by Christmas.
And the kicker is, it'll be $199!
I still don't have a name for this product, so if you have any suggestions, I'm keen to hear them!
I'll release more details regarding the specs and design as soon as I can confirm everything, so stay tuned.
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KOGAN GOOGLE ANDROID PHONE BY CHRISTMAS!
3 NOV 2008
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Pedro S says...
Surely K-phone would be a good name?
K-1 ?
After iphone and G1 K is the next step forward.
Posted at 6:52 p.m. on November 3, 2008
Nick V says...
MiPhone or MiFone would be good name, I will be definitely looking forward to hearing more. So I don't mind what it is called. Will it work on Next G? If so I need 5 for my business.
Posted at 8:04 p.m. on November 3, 2008
Mik says...
Oh nice. I only left a comment on another one of your posts the other day, glad to see this confirmation.
Sorry I have no real name suggestions. KoPho/Kandroid/Kookle.. No idea. I'm terrible with names...
Probably have to see design first. It depends where you want to go. K-Phone or K-1 would be ok if you are trying to follow in others footsteps.. depends if you want to go somewhere new.
You have officially put a hold on my next mobile purchase until Christmas. Hope my current one lasts the distance.
Looking forward to seeing specs.
Posted at 10:21 p.m. on November 3, 2008
John Tongue says...
The Kogamaphone... for sure :)
Posted at 10:56 p.m. on November 3, 2008
surf says...
Kogan Horizon
</random name>
Looking forward to specs, hopefully decent battery life O_o
Posted at 12:29 a.m. on November 4, 2008
Daz says...
Koroid is my suggestion for the name of the new product
Cheers,
Daz
Posted at 2:20 a.m. on November 4, 2008
Macca says...
@Daz: with respect, 'Koroid' sounds like a topical ointment for hemorrhoids.
I think KPhone or K1 is a good name as the 1st commenter suggested.
I also posted on another thread about this. Glad to see it is semi-confirmed.
This has delayed my next phone purchase. If you guys can actually release a decent product for AU$200 they'll sell like crazy. Any idea of what basic specs it would have? aGPS, etc?
Want.
Posted at 10:22 a.m. on November 4, 2008
Ben P says...
Kogan Shadow <--the first one that came to mind
Kogan Aperto
(Aperto is Italian for open, as in open source)
Kogan Toccare
(Italian for Touch)
Personally I think you should steer clear of the model number names (I.e. KU990) as this means nothing to consumers.
But as Mik said it does depend on the design of the phone and how you see this venture, are you creating a phone brand (I.e. Blackberry where RIM is the maker or iPhone were Apple is the maker) or is Kogan the brand.
Also I wouldn't go with K1 or kPhone as these just make the phone seem like a rip off.
Really looking forward to getting more information about this.
Posted at 12:02 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Stephen says...
Looking forward to hearing more about this phone.
As asked earlier, will it support 850 for NextG on Telstra?
Re name, how about just Kogan Phone ??
Cheers
Posted at 12:29 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Gerry says...
Kandroid
Posted at 1:02 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Rob says...
For those of us living in the middle of nowhere, Telstra (spit!) NextG is the only real option, I'll buy it if it'll run a NextG simcard!
Posted at 1:28 p.m. on November 4, 2008
lainee says...
why not the KOOGLE phone?
Posted at 1:39 p.m. on November 4, 2008
bruni says...
Will it support NextG?
Phone name? gFree or G1-Free
Posted at 2 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Graeme says...
RepliKant
Posted at 2:19 p.m. on November 4, 2008
rusty aka carbide says...
have to agree with Macca and steer clear of any name close to haemorrhoid. Nothing like releasing a new product that might have a small bug on it and the media just has a field day on it.
K-1 seems logical but too similar to other product names especially if this is a great or to be a very successful product you need something unique.
KoG1, Ko-G1 or Kog-1 has the G1 google theme, company brand name and inference to a cog. So part of a greater machine or small tool and I guess the loading/search screen can have rotating cog, sorry err.... kog logo
Posted at 2:37 p.m. on November 4, 2008
rusty aka carbide says...
3G HSDPA this day and age is the normal.
Biggest complaint I have had from customers is design and usefulness. The other is portability and these customer are office users not road warriors like myself.
At end of day most conditions must be met and that is why the iPhone has been so successful. Reasonable battery life, user interface etc
I just need a phone that can access anywhere for my email and (hopefully) future applications.. oh did I mention battery life :)
Posted at 2:47 p.m. on November 4, 2008
samb says...
I will definitely buy one of these if it works with 3, I need a new phone and I'd be paying about this much for a new one with them anyway!
Posted at 5 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Ian says...
How about the K-Tel?
Posted at 5:18 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Francis says...
My first instinct for a name for the Kogan-Google-Android phone was KOOGLE, like one of your earlier visitors.
What a good business model you have, but I'll bet it takes a lot of attention to detail to avoid surprises when the goods arrive!
All the best.
Posted at 5:43 p.m. on November 4, 2008
Joe S in Redcliffe Qld .. says...
I think the name needs to be something simple sleek and Branded. It needs to be Aussie - and relates to the current market and smart..
So my suggestion is the... K3G
- pronounced Keg... very Next Gen. very Gen Y . they will be your biggest market. Stands for "Kogan 3G" Clear and to the point.
Cheers ! have a K3G (Keg) on me !! I would love one ...
Posted at 9:04 p.m. on November 4, 2008
chuksy says...
Can we get the device over the net for those of us who dont live in Australia
Posted at 2:52 a.m. on November 5, 2008
bigtfuzzywarbler says...
the "Cat"
i.e. the cat amongst the pigeons
Posted at 8:59 a.m. on November 5, 2008
Nerd says...
K1 or Koole sounds fine with me or going with Ben P's ideas maybe the K touch, name matters a bit ....but operability will be the real deal breaker!
Posted at 10:04 a.m. on November 5, 2008
Andrei Railean says...
KOTOGO - Kogan To Go :)
Posted at 10:10 a.m. on November 5, 2008
Gabriel from Argentina says...
I'll sue you! You can't tease us this bad!!! :) I'll keep an eye on this website and check the specs once launched. If this phone looks good, i may even skip my future Nokia 5800 purchase.
Cheers!
Posted at 11:39 a.m. on November 5, 2008
Brian says...
Koopup --- Koopria
Posted at 11:46 a.m. on November 5, 2008
Nick V, again. says...
What about iLife, these days phone is more then just a phone, it is your whole life in a plastic box. Or eLife, either way it is still all your life information on one device. Well at least mine is.
Hey, Kogan, what ever you call it, hurry up..........................
Posted at 12:25 p.m. on November 5, 2008
Daniel T says...
I`m sooo excited about this, can you do a High and a Low spec phone, I`d love to get a low spec phone to have a play with and am willing to buy a low spec one to play with the OS, but if that OS does what I hope it will I`d be looking for a High spec phone to replace my current one, Go for a name like the Kogan-K1 keep it simple
Posted at 2:41 p.m. on November 5, 2008
Mitch says...
That is an awesome price, but will we be forced onto a contract or locked with a supplier? Because that could totally ruin this phone
Posted at 6:08 p.m. on November 5, 2008
Kogan, Ierusalem says...
G o o K - this is the name that you loooooooking for.
Posted at 6:17 p.m. on November 5, 2008
Fredrik; Stockholm, Sweden says...
This sounds great! where do I sign up?
Posted at 10:41 p.m. on November 5, 2008
Bow wow wow says...
I want Kandy!
Posted at 11:03 p.m. on November 5, 2008
SilverDragon says...
How about "KAT"
Kogan Android Telephone
Posted at 9 a.m. on November 6, 2008
xaxisycross says...
Kodroid.
The kodroids will take over the world...
Any updates on specs?
Posted at 9:19 a.m. on November 6, 2008
Matt says...
Hi Mate, really interested in picking up one of these phones. Any way to pre-order or express interest?
Cheers
Posted at 12:27 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Neil says...
Kamikaze ?
Hmm, maybe too many bad conetations from that one. Then again, you are dive bombing prices. :-)
Posted at 12:52 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Leigh says...
Come on!!!
the Kogamaphone..
Ko-ga-ma-phone...
Love Ii!!!
Posted at 1:34 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Rodney says...
Kogandroid... Obviously :P
Posted at 1:51 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Kdog says...
How about BMUS 1000
BMUS => Beam me up Scotty
Yeeha, can't wait
Posted at 2:40 p.m. on November 6, 2008
pete says...
How about gobile? (although it does sound like your trying to extract something from your guts).
Otherwise I would try something which could be related to Android...
eg Centurion (battlestar glactica),
c3g0...
Posted at 2:44 p.m. on November 6, 2008
jak says...
How about ...
Gandroid
Nagok-1
Posted at 3:03 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Macca says...
Agreed. We need some indication of specs or our excitement will subside.
Posted at 4:07 p.m. on November 6, 2008
aj says...
You can almost be sure that is the very same phone that will soon be branded as a Kogan.
Don't get me wrong I don't work for Kogan.... just having a guess
Posted at 4:26 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Chris T. says...
Well i want one ...
hope to see some specs soon
Posted at 8:24 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Ben P says...
@ aj
I don't think this is the device as it doesn't look like that has GPS and the Kogan has been reported to have GPS.
Posted at 8:53 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Daniel says...
I hope it has 3G, 16GB MicroSD support and a 3" screen!
Posted at 9:27 p.m. on November 6, 2008
Tim says...
Specs please. Agree with others, make it hi spec (yes I know it is only $200), but no point releasing a toy.
Posted at 10:55 p.m. on November 6, 2008
bob says...
off topic!!!1
Kogan your blu-ray player is $349 not even here yet...
JB HI FI has soniq for $299...
um i think you got wrecked by the big boys...no point with your blu-ray player,
Posted at 11:29 p.m. on November 6, 2008
aj says...
@ Ben P
GPS??? Are you really believing what you read in the paper?
c'mon mate.... Kogan will bring this phone out, then say you can use google maps via the web like the first iphone, he probably already has these on the way.
@ lottos.com.au
I saw that link as well and made some inquiries re large order cost, to be fair, Kogan puts a respectable margin on these goods and is by no means over charging like I think he is doing for the larger lcd tvs. (esp the old 46" model that was garbage)
The only real question/fear I have is if i buy one of these units, do I really know if it has passed all the radiation emitting guidelines, like a phone unlike a TV can adversely affect your health...
What sort of safety testing will be done on this phone and who will regulate it? I dont want my ear to melt of and or a battery explode!!
Posted at 9:06 a.m. on November 7, 2008
Ben P says...
@ aj
Hey mate i'm just saying what has been reported. I hope Kogan doesn't believe they can convince us that that crap with the first iPhone is gps. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.
Also I thought they need to get approval to sell the phone here to ensure it is safe. Not that I know.
Posted at 10:07 a.m. on November 7, 2008
Christopher M from Adelaide says...
K'BOT (Kogan 'Bot Open Telephone)
After all, any good open source product needs a good recursive acronym!
Posted at 10:25 a.m. on November 7, 2008
aj says...
@ Ben P
Your right, I also hope they do not do this.
A $199 phone that has GPS, Android and wifi would instantly be a hit!
However, Kogan's current GPS is &249, if this phone has GPS hardware inside of it, Kogan would be cannibalizing his own products... who would buy that is you could get a gps and million other features for $50 bucks less?
I am still 100% sure that this is the phone he will be bringing out!
Further more, I am sure there will be minimal testing carried out.... eeeeeeek
Posted at 10:53 a.m. on November 7, 2008
aj says...
One more thing.... it looks like the model I am speculating about Kogan getting, does not have 3G....... Therefore, no "semi reliable" GPS over the web, therefore waste of money!
Posted at 10:56 a.m. on November 7, 2008
David says...
Hmmm... I was very excited to hear this at first... but after that died down I began to wonder just how much hardware can you pack into a $199 phone? I'm guessing the hardware will be more along the lines of saaay the Motorola RAZR or Sony Ericsson k800 series but it just HAPPENS to use Android as an operating system rather than Symbian or Windows Mobile. I wouldn't be expecting full blown iPhone or HTC Dream killer at this price as even the OpenMoko project only managed to produce a phone with Ok-ish specs for USD $399.
Even though the work I do (IT stuff) demands that I have WiFi, Bluetooth, email, web, 3G, a full keyboard (not a keypad) and a phone I can install a telnet/SSH client on, I will be interested to see what Kogan can come up with. There are still alot of older people who only want a mobile for the original purpose it was intended... TO MAKE PHONE CALLS!!!! If Kogan can do that and do it well... my hat goes off to you sir!
Posted at 10:59 a.m. on November 7, 2008
noofa says...
KoGoo,
I like very much,
please - do you also sell young she-goats?
I like also
Posted at 12:36 p.m. on November 7, 2008
maximbank says...
His name's iDroid
Ha ha I need to get one.
Posted at 3:04 p.m. on November 7, 2008
Andy D says...
Call it the Ruslan
Posted at 3:05 p.m. on November 7, 2008
fonzo says...
please make it quadband gsm and triband HSDPA here in america we never get the cool phones cuz the manufactures only make phones with 2100 band.
Posted at 3:52 p.m. on November 7, 2008
Wayne says...
Suggest the Koogle or K9..
Q: will this be the G1, G2 or another manufacturer's device?
I will definately be getting on provided it works with the Telstra 850 network
Posted at 5:29 p.m. on November 7, 2008
Vic76 says...
My suggestions are Kougar, Kevlar or Klix
(not sure if any of these are already taken).
Agree about the K1. Motorola already have a model called K1.
Already have a phone on a 2yr contract but if this phone is only going to go for $200, I might bite the bullet and get it anyway.
Posted at 5:40 p.m. on November 7, 2008
Quad says...
How about 'KoGo'?
Posted at 5:45 p.m. on November 7, 2008
David W says...
call it the Kogan GAP as in Kogan Google Android Phone
Posted at 7:14 p.m. on November 7, 2008
lottos.com.au says...
@aj
beat me to it - I also doubt this will have 3G, the phone will be as per your and my links - GSM only.
Can't really expect too much if the price is $199.
Posted at 8:22 p.m. on November 7, 2008
DarthDVD says...
New phone purchase on hold (i do realy need a new one but ill wait now)
Possible names for new phone
I-Pwn,
AusPhone,
Oi-Phone <<this one,
Ozi-Phone,
Ozzy-Phone,
Connect,
Bonza-Phone,
Posted at 4:57 p.m. on November 8, 2008
maisics says...
kogan portable
does the winner get one free?
Posted at 5:46 p.m. on November 8, 2008
Ben P says...
@ Andy D
I really like Ruslan, think it sounds good (and has the obvious connection), but when you look up the meaning of the name, Russian Man, seems to make no sense for the name of a phone.
Posted at 8 p.m. on November 8, 2008
suzanmarie says...
call it k-Roid
Posted at 9:28 p.m. on November 8, 2008
Barney says...
kRoad / kroad 1 : The Kogan Highway to Discovery
Posted at 10:10 p.m. on November 8, 2008
sunny_vic says...
yeah, like many comments before hand, any GPS in it would be through google maps, which is ok (tentative), but could be heaps better. Hope we'll get a spec release soon. hopefully there's also a 3.5mm jack for the headphones in it, otherwise its just a pain
Posted at 10:26 p.m. on November 8, 2008
Michael Flynn says...
Sanuk - means fun in Thai
Posted at 1:53 a.m. on November 9, 2008
chuksy says...
SPECS PLEASE!!!!!
Posted at 10:25 a.m. on November 9, 2008
tjmarchos says...
Good call about the 3.5mm jack sunny_vic! also 3G is surely a must have these days, along with wifi and a high MP camera (maybe similar/better than my 5MP N95 camera)....fingers crossed!!! =x
Posted at 10:44 p.m. on November 9, 2008
gaius says...
Any word on an actual (Australian) release date?
Posted at 12:28 p.m. on November 10, 2008
Macca says...
Interesting. I suspect that for $199 we'll get a non-3g enabled Android phone without aGPS etc.
Having said that, it still could make for a bargain so long as you don't need to use it for data-heavy applications (such as those delivered over a 3G network).
I'm going to wait for this to come out before deciding between this and the Nokia 5800XM.
Posted at 3:16 p.m. on November 10, 2008
Gus says...
KoGo, KoGoo, K1 sound good to me.
Cant wait to see it, very interested.
Posted at 4:27 p.m. on November 10, 2008
Umth says...
KLIF3
AI-Kogan
K-SMART
K-T3CH
;-)
Posted at 6:01 p.m. on November 10, 2008
singasong says...
"Kogan Android Phone" Unless it claims Android, how do you draw attention of publicity? By Kogan brand or cheaper price? There are many Chinese cheap Windows mobile there already. All look similar for ordinary people.
Anyway, I like to get one to play with. Can I place an order now?
Cheers!
Posted at 11:30 p.m. on November 10, 2008
Simon B. says...
That G2 Dream is light weight, but we need GPS, electronic compass and accelerometer to play with games and cool geo apps. Also the screen resultion seems to be half that of G1 (which is HVGA, 320x480).
Posted at 12:22 a.m. on November 11, 2008
aj says...
THE g2 is cheap..... crappy china phone.......
wait a sec...... that would be perfect for the Kogan line up
http://www.kingluxe.com/search.php?ps_mode=search&url=pag...
Posted at 12:05 p.m. on November 11, 2008
Macca says...
@aj: now you're just sounding like a hater.
Posted at 1:08 p.m. on November 12, 2008
Dave says...
as Rodney says...
Kogandroid... Obviously :P
Kogandroid is what I though of too...
Posted at 1:27 p.m. on November 12, 2008
itsMe says...
any name would be ok, the most important thing is what can the smartphone do.
Posted at 3:12 p.m. on November 12, 2008
Bill brisbane says...
"anrdaroo" the aussie flavour, hope its got dual sims
Posted at 9:55 a.m. on November 13, 2008
bill again says...
Heres the go ... The BATTLER it will be just in time for that idiot Rudds battler hand out ... will get heaps of free press AND means Gerry Harvey wont get it all !
Posted at 11:04 a.m. on November 13, 2008
Dan says...
3G or Not 3G this is the question
Posted at 1:57 p.m. on November 13, 2008
Wizard of Oz says...
"Kogan Kryptonite" would be my suggestion.
Like Superman, this phone will weaken and or kill G1 an all the other stupid devices out there!!
PLZ hurry with the phone, europe needs a good android device!! ;)
Australia rules!!!
-Wizard
Posted at 3:55 a.m. on November 14, 2008
Filipe says...
KO-Droid or KG-Droid (just an excuse to write here and beg you to ship it to Europe... or only Portugal).
It would be great if you extend the sugestions also to design... the winner gets one kogan phone for free. I will love to vote for the best design.
Posted at 6:23 a.m. on November 14, 2008
Macca says...
I'm starting to think a name that doesn't use the word 'Kogan' or any variation thereof is probably best. If this is to sell to teenagers and everyone else, it needs a name that is catchy and marketable.
It's also not necessary to name the phone using the work 'Android' - 99% of the population don't even know what Android is.
Alternatively you could go with a more generic brand name like 'Kogan K100' or something really ordinary. Future devices could follow a similar naming convention 'Kogan K101/K200' etc. based on their type.
Posted at 9:21 a.m. on November 14, 2008
Grumbles says...
Call it the Kryton
Posted at 11:30 a.m. on November 14, 2008
storm says...
storm is a good name, for anything :)
Posted at 3:15 p.m. on November 14, 2008
storm says...
to be better than the iphone and HTC, it has to have:
- full keyboard (unless it's going to be a virtual keyboard a-la the iPhone).
- decent voice recorder (mp3) which can easily be output to pc.
- headphone jack
- video recorder.
Posted at 3:18 p.m. on November 14, 2008
Scootie says...
The new Kogan KGA.. Only $199.00 Australian Bucks!
Posted at 3:50 p.m. on November 14, 2008
Pawan says...
Name: Kogan Unified, Kogan Compound, Kogan Spark, Kogan Bullet, Kogan Strike, Kogan Alloy, Kogan Trace
Few already mentioned: Kogan Horizon, Kogan Strom, Kogan Klix
Specs: Just bead IPhone specs in terms of Processor (528 Mhz), RAM(192 MB), Screen size (3.5 diagonal), Camera (3.2 or 5 mpx desired), resolution (480-by-320-pixel), Headphone jack (3.5 or at least 2.5 mm), full Qwerty keyboard, micro sd slot ( 16GB max). AGPS, Wifi,
Free to buy just handset. shipping outside Australia too.
Iphone Specs: http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
Posted at 6:27 p.m. on November 14, 2008
JP says...
How about Kandy?
Posted at 10:57 p.m. on November 14, 2008
Jason says...
The Kogle.
Simple as that.
Posted at 2:14 a.m. on November 15, 2008
Ross says...
I'm interested - Phone reception quality has to be the main priority as any one who bought an early JasJam will attest great phone for it's time but pathetic phone reception - also 3G HDSPA and a decent screen resolution are a must - GPS would also be an advantage. It would be better if necessary to slightly increase the price to get some reasonable specs /receptiom quality - clearly at $199 it is not going to be a full spec Iphone killer but perhaps at $250 / $300 enough specs might be in it to make it very attractive.
As commented on earlier - I would probably only consider buying it if there was a report from an authoritive tester that it met all the relevant emission guidelines (though as commented on earlier this may come as default to be allowed to operate in Australia).
Posted at 8:25 a.m. on November 15, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
cant wait for this release.
hopefully it would have GPS, WiFi, 3G, decent battery life, full touch screen like iphone. hate the G1 QWERTY keyboard. a good processor. hopefullt it would be atleast 128MB RAM. atleast and yeah bluetooth. a place for SDHC memory card slot would be awesome.
hopefully, it wont stick to any service provider
Posted at 10:08 p.m. on November 15, 2008
Kaku says...
its been jst exactly a month from release and still no sign of specs or design? come on man... how long do u want us to keep in suspense. its time we know the specs atleast. all my friends have stop their future purchase... waiting for your release. hopefully it wont be sluggish
how about the name as K3G pronounced as Ked?
or "KT1" for Kogan Tech first release. how about this: Godroid KT1?? i love it :)
finally vote for the name: nDro
Posted at 7:17 a.m. on November 16, 2008
Nelson says...
call it "Kogan Android"
Posted at 3:20 a.m. on November 17, 2008
Macca says...
I'm thinking this phone will compete with the LG KP500 in terms of price/features. GSM only, no aGPS and no WiFi. For $200 there's not way it's going to have any of the 'good' stuff we all want.
Posted at 8:54 a.m. on November 17, 2008
rotney says...
the Kog-ant
Posted at 10:22 a.m. on November 17, 2008
spongebob says...
I already have a K1, it is made by Motorola.
How about a name that is a deadly Australian snake - as this phone could be a real killer. Dugite, Taipan or Gwardir all sound good to me.
Posted at 11:43 a.m. on November 17, 2008
aj says...
http://www.kingluxe.com/search.php?ps_mode=search&url=pag...
just wondering when we can officially confirm that this is the unit you are bringing in???????
I mean.... of allllllllllllllllll the manufacturers you could have chosen from.... lets see if the first hit on alibaba is the one you bring in KOGAN!
NO 3G
Posted at 12:03 p.m. on November 17, 2008
Ben P says...
@ spongebob
I really like this suggestion, you could even extend it onto other animals/creatures. And then each new phone (if/when) can follow the theme.
@aj
What is your problem? Why do you seem to have such a poor attitude, with an obvious bias against Kogan?
Posted at 1:23 p.m. on November 17, 2008
pilgrim says...
wow, some serious commentary and expectation over a phone.
You are either a genius or a goose Mr Kogan, getting all of these nice people interested and excited over your little android phone.
I liked "cat", but like "kat" a little better.
As for some of those other suggestions. Christ people, some of you have been using your phones too much, affecting your brain.
Posted at 1:39 p.m. on November 17, 2008
Macca says...
@aj: dude seriously, if you aren't interested in the product why bother commenting? Are you bored?
Posted at 2:05 p.m. on November 17, 2008
aj says...
@ Macca and Ben P
Ill tell you what u donkeys......
I had no probs with Kogan untill he decided to directly attack Harvey Norman.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have an affiliation to Harvey at all!!
BUT
It wreaked of arrogance..... and i digress...
How someone is so arrogant when they are selling OEM imports with statements in the press like,
"we have literally hundreds of manufactures we can choose from"
and
"we are just finalizing the design for......"
All in reference to this new phone he in bringing out makes me sick......
The guy is buying a few hundred str8 from alibaba and selling it with a 3c stamp of ink saying kogan added to it.....
and is arrogant???
/me VOMITS
Posted at 4:48 p.m. on November 17, 2008
Rodrigo Aguilar says...
hi there i think a phone of open scourse needs no introduction
my personal idea for the name is" CRYPT"
"Kogan Crypt " meaning "Consumer" "Reliant" "your" "personal"touch"...By Kogan
if you like the slogan give me a job
more info @
funkythreads4u@hotmail.com
Posted at 5:43 p.m. on November 17, 2008
Ben P says...
@aj
1) No need to call people names, just shows that your level of maturity is quite low (I'm thinking the level of a Primary School student, maybe early High School).
2) If you have a problem with what was said in the post regarding Harvey Norman, than comment there, don't bring your hate to this thread. They are not relevant nor constructive.
3) How do you KNOW that Kogan is going to be releasing the phones you have provided links to (in almost every post). Do you have inside information? If not, then it is pure speculation, not fact (yet).
Lets all hope the quality of your future posts (and I hope you do, as you are obviously interested and have a point of view) are much improved. If not, then perhaps don't post.
Regard.
Posted at 7:11 p.m. on November 17, 2008
Macca says...
I don't discard the possibility that Kogan will simply purchase and OEM phone - it's very likely that most Kogan products are OEM products since manufacturing and producing new/modified products is expensive, difficult and time consuming.
However, even if the Kogan Android phone is the OEM phone that 'aj' links to, so what? It's a $199 phone! At $199, nobody posting on this thread expects much more than a simple Android phone.
Posted at 9:14 a.m. on November 18, 2008
aj P says...
Ben your so insightful and instructive!!
Your also wise beyond your years, how did you know I was in primary school? You must be some sort of quasi Russian babooshka henchman!
I say Russian because your english skills are rusty at best.
Again let me enjoy my wonderment, i have decided to change my name to flatter you so you won't be so grumpy and Kogan defensive....
All I am doing is throwing down a challege to the Kogan COMPANY.......... I dare them not to release this PHONE:
http://www.kingluxe.com/search.php?ps_mode=search&url=pag...
There is the link for you again.......
oh one more thing..... the more posts here.... the more likely google is to index this page.... kogan knows that...... thats why he doesn't edit his pages....
Much respect Kogan Co.... youll get more if you really do manage to bring out a phone I cant just buy on Alibaaba!!!!
Good Luck
Posted at 9:18 a.m. on November 18, 2008
aj P says...
LOL
Google 'Kogan Phone'..... this page already indexed haha..... even negativity has helped publicize this product!!!!
Macca.... you are right I did say that..... He is selling it with V little mark up!
I have never said I don't respect Kogan.... I just don't think he has any right to be arrogant when he is so so so so OEM......
Posted at 9:28 a.m. on November 18, 2008
Quad says...
@aj
I'm really enjoying this banter so please don't stop, but if you're going to pass comment on other people's grasp of the English language maybe you should make sure you have yours fully grasped also. Your spelling and punctuation leaves something to be desired.
Be sure to get your "your/you're" correct in future and keep an eye on your upper vs lower case problem. Just proof read it a few times before posting it to avoid future embarrassment, because God knows that was a doozy!
Anyway keep your sooking and your waa waa waa-ing up, it passes the time as we wait for the the phone's release.
Oh yeah and I can't wait to be able write these things on an Android phone so if Kogan is the first to do it here then so be it.
Posted at 9:50 a.m. on November 18, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
Hi everyone,
Sorry I haven't had the chance to be more involved here -- I have been very busy working on the Android phone! I promise I will get you details as soon as I can confirm everything.
I'm sorry you found my comments about Harvey Norman arrogant, but I just didn't agree with the way he was talking about the Australian economic situation. I didn't think his public statement was at all appropriate and I thought some people might be interested in hearing my view -- turns out they were.
In regards to the Android phone, we are certainly not buying 'a few hundred straight form alibaba'. We are working closely with manufacturers to design a new phone. I will admit that we are yet to finalise the product, but it's looking very exciting!
Also, I completely understand you being worried about the product but rest assured it will be a quality product backed up by our warranty. I'll also get it to third party media outlets as soon as possible so before it launches you can read some honest feedback about it.
Posted at 10:24 a.m. on November 18, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
aj, I gladly accept your dare!
That is not the phone we will be releasing in Australia.
Just to validate that, the phone you link to (and some others that have been suggested) is not 3G. I would never release a phone in Australia that is not 3G compatible.
Kogan Technologies is not about selling the cheapest product. We strike a balance between the best technology and the best value prices. 3G is a must!
Posted at 10:32 a.m. on November 18, 2008
bill says...
dont forget DUAL SIM !!!
Posted at 11:06 a.m. on November 18, 2008
Ben P says...
@ aj (P)
Mate, I am going to need you to point out my 'rusty' English skills. If you can point out examples, that would be appreciated.
If you believe you are more mature than a primary school student, then perhaps you should ensure your posts reflect your maturity.
Also, my confidence levels are not based on what other people think of me, certainly not you anyway. But if you feel as though you need to show respect to me, then my all means.
I am not defensive of Kogan, I have no affiliation with the company or Ruslan at all. I just think your comments regarding this device are unjustifiably negative. The only connections I have with the company are:
1) I am Australian; and
2) I am interested in the Android OS.
@ Ruslan
Thanks for finally coming out and putting to rest the claims made by 'aj', however you did not comment on the gps.
Also, I would be more than happy to take a unit to test for you. You should also consider providing one to 'aj (P)' as he/she may be your harshest critic and it would be worthwhile getting that point of view.
Posted at 11:58 a.m. on November 18, 2008
aj P says...
BOOM.... he has spoken!
and accepted the anti OEM challenge......
mate if u pull throu8gh i might have to get one.... to control my garage door..... as I hear this is possible with that hack friendly OS YUMYUM
QUAD:
"but if you're going to pass comment on other people's grasp of the English language maybe you should make sure you have yours fully grasped"
Hit F7 buddy and use thesaurus
your bitching isn't entertaining and I will always give credit where it is due..... u just ain't there
Posted at 12:11 p.m. on November 18, 2008
spongebob says...
@Ruslan - when designing your phone please consider much more than 128Mb for app storage. That is the major flaw of the G1. Google engineers are working on allowing apps to be run from the SD card but there are technical challenges with that. The simple answer is to increase the amount of primary storage. 8Gb as per an iPhone or Nokia N95 would be nice but anything greater than 128Mb is most welcome.
Posted at 12:24 p.m. on November 18, 2008
C3PO says...
I doubt this phone will be a reality before early 2009......
Posted at 3:04 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Macca says...
@C3PO: I fear you are correct. If Ruslan is indeed having this thing put together himself then we are many months away from anything 'hitting shelves' so to speak. Just think how long it takes getting a phone through the radiation exposure standards etc, etc.,
The Nokia 5800XM won't be released until next year either. These two phones are probably worth waiting for. I'll have to keep my falling-apart Nokia 6131 going until then...
Posted at 3:19 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Ben P says...
@ Macca
Do you happen to know how long it takes to get all the required approvals? I have no idea, just curious. Maybe (and I am hoping) there is a fast tracking process?
However I don't think it took an exceptionally long time for the G1 to get approval (maybe a month). Do you think the US and Oz would be similar in testing times?
Posted at 3:39 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Macca says...
@aj P: You're a lame-a$$ troll. If only I had my ban-hammer handy...
Posted at 3:53 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
i seriously dont understand aj P!! whats his point? no offence.
anyways, i have been checking on this thread every day and its great to finally hear Mr Kogan speak again. atleast 3G is confirm and hope the other stuffs like GPS, wifi etc etc is also supported with a good internal memory for softwares. 256MB would be a "wow" effect if not more :)
Posted at 4:13 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Ben P says...
Question to fellow posters:
Would you prefer a lower internal memory (128MB) with MicroSDHC support (G1) or a large fixed internal storage (4GB) without MicroSDHC support (HTC Touch Diamond)?
Also what should the minimum ROM size be? I have a HTC Touch (Elf) which has 64MB ROM, which in my opinion is way to small for the things I want my phone to do.
Posted at 4:20 p.m. on November 18, 2008
aj P says...
Macca, are you sitting on your ham hammer?
oops silly Q
Posted at 4:49 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Pawan says...
Memory - RAM 192 MB RAM
Memory - ROM 256 MB ROM
Memory Slot MicroSD (Max 16GB)
Battery 1500 mAh
A must for phone to be successful.
More RAM will lead to more application and they running all the time so more battery is a must.
Can any one clarify the price tags say $199 is it Australia or US Dollar? Double minded (US as it explicitly does not says AUD or Australia as Kogan is a Australia company and selling it there)
Posted at 10:19 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Ben P says...
@ Pawan
I presumed it was Australian. If it was US then the papers should have indicated this in their articles. Plus as this is an Australian URL I thought it was pretty safe to presume the prices are relevant for Australia.
Posted at 10:30 p.m. on November 18, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
my current phone Asus P320 with 64MB RAM and 128 MB ROM is just too low for me and way too slow.
i would prefer a minimum of 128MB RAM with min 256MB ROM with SDHC support. 4Gb is way too small for me as i listen to a lot of mp3 and uses it for storing personal important data etc etc
Posted at 2:04 a.m. on November 19, 2008
BananaBusiness says...
As someone mentioned above, here is some information about the "Dream G2" phone...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/11/18/android-powered-...
http://mysciphone.com/G2Specia.asp
I noticed something...
"...a brick of an Android-powered handset promised for a November 28 release..." (EngadgetMobile.com)
Sounds like a coincident for the case of Kogan's Android phone?
Anyway, $199 for a touch screen brick that can connect to my Wireless network, so I can check the latest weather updates and emails quickly in the morning? Hell yea.....
Posted at 11:14 a.m. on November 19, 2008
Cymro says...
a 3G phone I can watch Flash on, use as a modem, skype (maybe?), gps, even open my garage door with... I want it!
please tell me you'll ship to NZ.
Posted at 11:17 a.m. on November 19, 2008
Ben P says...
What is happening to aj P's posts? One is deleted, and then another one is edited? Seems strange.
Posted at 3:43 p.m. on November 19, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
Hi everyone,
Please rest assured no posts are ever edited. The most recent post was typed up with the words 'edit', it was all he/she wrote.
The reason I removed it was because it was not a meaningful contribution to the discussion -- which so far is very insightful. As I've reiterated, the phone you linked to is not the phone we will be releasing.
Talk to you soon!
Ruslan
Posted at 4:24 p.m. on November 19, 2008
Scott says...
My wish for the phone:
3.3" WVGA screen
192MB RAM
250MB ROM
Large internal storage plus microsd expansionslot
bluetooth A2DP (eventually when google android release it)
GPS
Wifi
too much for $200?
may just be wishful thinking....
Posted at 4:27 p.m. on November 19, 2008
Macca says...
Despite a $199 price tag, I'd like to see the following features as a priority:
* Screen res > 320x240 (320x240 is much too small for a full touch-screen device)
* Capactive-type screen (not resistive)
* aGPS
* WiFi (absolute MUST HAVE imo)
Less-important features:
* Camera/video functionality
I think this is definitely achievable since phones like the Blackberry Bold have a shipped cost of < AUD$240, and they include every possible feature under the sun!
As I understand one of the big expenses in building devices like these is memory and CPU. If the phone is to have good camera/video/media functionality it needs a decent CPU and that means higher price.
Posted at 9:43 a.m. on November 20, 2008
Ben P says...
@ Macca
In my opinion it would seem almost ridiculous to release a phone these days without an inbuilt camera and some media functionality. Even phones with 2MP camera's are generally considered to be 'low spec'. I generally agree with everything else you said though.
Posted at 10:54 a.m. on November 20, 2008
aj P says...
A post of mine, which i think was my best post... (not the edit one) was removed from this blog.
I want to be able on the challenge I have given to Ruslan but my comments get deleted.
Any way. I am only concerned with 3g...... its paramount as I am on the 3 network. Also, on screen key board...... another functional must.
Again.... please don't remove my posts or this could get ugly...
I know your products come from china..... it would be a shame if you were also importing their authoritative and suppressive views of free speech!
Posted at 11:31 a.m. on November 20, 2008
Toby says...
How about you $%#@ wait until the specks come out then you guys can talk...... geee
Posted at 1:18 p.m. on November 20, 2008
Macca says...
@Toby: has someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning?
Posted at 1:40 p.m. on November 20, 2008
Peter File says...
Any news?
Posted at 2:15 p.m. on November 20, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
Still working hard on this everyone!
As you can understand I don't want to talk about particulars until we finalise it, but aj P, as I've already stated -- the phone will be 3G compatible.
Macca, where did you see the Bold for less than $240? I'd be very interested to take a look. I believe it is that cheap, but only if you're stuck to a 12-24 month plan. The Kogan phone on the other hand will not be locked to any plan or network, which is a very significant difference. I think if you try to purchase the Bold outright it comes to a significantly higher cost.
Cheers,
Ruslan
Posted at 5:52 p.m. on November 20, 2008
JohnMac says...
"Droid" unless george lucas has that tied up.
The only problem you'll have is selling a phone with so many security faults from what i understand.
Not that it would stop me buying one though.
Posted at 7 p.m. on November 20, 2008
Herbert says...
My wishlist for the phone..
- Ideally use the same touchscreen as the G1. HTC spent at least US$19.67 on theirs but a good touchscreen makes all the difference.
- Setup a development community website with all the Android code + drivers used so the community can further improve your firmware with the latest updates.
- Sell it globally asap. There is huge worldwide demand for a cheap Android handset and Kogan currently has it all for the taking.
Posted at 12:01 a.m. on November 21, 2008
j says...
What can I say that has not been said? I'll reiterate my deal breaking list:
Touchscreen, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, expansion card slot SDHC preferred, camera, as much RAM as G1/iPhone, actual keyboard or onscreen keyboard (so take your pick, either design new keyboard hardware or software hah). Make it nice looking, glossy or rough, the case design should be immaculate.
My would be nice list:
Clicking touchscreen.
Names:
KoToGo (or Kotogo), K1, K3G the “keg”, “the Android phone that is $200AU” (ok maybe not that name).
I found Kogan Technologies specifically searching for the next Android phone, and really couldn't ask for anything better than what you are offering price wise. As you are most likely aware, if you release this phone onto the WORLD market, you will dominate it. Period. Demand will be so high, that I doubt you will be able to make them fast enough! Please ship internationally, please?
Posted at 3 a.m. on November 21, 2008
xaxisycross says...
I'd like an accelerometer.
Surely this would be a given in any new touchscreen phone... Especially with some of the exciting new Android apps that have been and will be developed.
I'd also love some specs but I do have to admit, the suspense is electric.
Posted at 8 a.m. on November 21, 2008
pilgrim says...
come on Ruslan, give us something! If you look at the posts they seem to have peaked, we may be on the tapering off curve. We need something to reinvigorate us and send the trajectory skywards again.
Just a snippet mate...just enough to stop me rushing out and getting an Omnia because I am too impatient to wait.
Posted at 4:15 p.m. on November 21, 2008
Daniel T says...
I`m kinda getting antsy now, my Dopod is dying, I`m in desperate need of a phone, if I cant get at least some indicator of specs i`m heading out to get something, maybe even dare I say it....an iPhone.
Posted at 4:58 p.m. on November 21, 2008
Karl says...
Is the phone just coming out with an on screen keyboard or will it have a quatery key board like T-Mobiles GPhone?
When will Info be released i really need a new phone and android is on my hit list
Posted at 9:04 p.m. on November 21, 2008
Mozleron says...
I'm very curious to know if this phone will be released in the United States, and what the US carriers will think of it if it is. If i could get this phone while staying with AT&T, i just may put off switching to T-Mobile to get the G1...
Posted at 6:40 a.m. on November 22, 2008
matthew patane says...
i agree, K-phone sounds good
Posted at 11:21 a.m. on November 22, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
i'm hoping this wont be another chinese phone with the screen deep inside making it hard to control the 4 corners and ending up using a stylus. come on bro, give us some details...
@ Karl: we are all hoping for an onscreen keyboard and not a QWERTY keyboard making it look ugly.
Posted at 4:38 p.m. on November 22, 2008
Marco K says...
I am looking forward to see this new device. I would call it the GoKan, a mix between Google and Kogan which seems to say that if you give it a go you can do a lot of things.
Posted at 8:10 a.m. on November 23, 2008
Maestro says...
Actually, I think I'd prefer a qwerty keyboard, as long as it's easy to use (i.e. keys not to small/close together).
I had a dopod with an onscreen keyboard, and it was so hard to use it was annoying. I prefer the tactile feel of keys.
Really looking forward to seeing some specs/pictures/anything on this phone. I was so happy to hear someone was making something in Australia with Android.
Posted at 9:51 a.m. on November 23, 2008
maisics says...
spec list (even though it might be too late):
- 3.2 or better camera
- better res than iphone (800*480 would be best)
- at least 8Gb memory with the phone whether card or inbuilt
- greater than 3 inch display
- Good battery life
- Great touch screen (character recognition would be fun)
- Wifi
- GPS
- please no physical keyboard
- MUST BE SEXY
Its this or a new touch screen from Nokia for me.
Posted at 2:08 p.m. on November 23, 2008
maisics says...
i forgot to add that it should have an accelrometer and gaming capabilities
Posted at 2:11 p.m. on November 23, 2008
Macca says...
@ maisics: dude your spec list is that of a $800 phone. Ruslan has said this will be released at $199, and that it will be 3G with no physical QWERTY.
At $199 you won't get an 800x480 screen and I doubt you'll get a display > 3" (I'm guessing the display will be exactly 3"). We will be lucky to get WiFi and I doubt we'll get GPS (despite the fact I want this badly). For $199 we have to be realistic.
Posted at 3:01 p.m. on November 23, 2008
R. says...
I completely agree: let's be realistic.
However I really hope it does WIFI, and has a standard headphone socket (please!).
Note I don't care about the camera: if you want nice pictures buy a real camera, and if you want quick snapshots on the go 3Mpix is more than enough. I wouldn't even mind if it had no camera at all...
About the name, someone pointed this out already but please avoid anything that makes it look like a cheap copy, like kPhone or K1. K3G would be a nice option.
Well I hope we'll get more information soon, the release date is supposed to be the 15th right? I can't wait :)
Posted at 5:39 p.m. on November 23, 2008
Mark says...
KG-1
Posted at 6:34 p.m. on November 23, 2008
Ben P says...
I am seriously doubting the reported 15 December release date. That is only a little over three weeks away and the specs (apparently) haven't been finalised yet. Also as I have previously mentioned, it is my opinion that the device/phone should have a camera, even if it is only 2MP, but preferably min. 3MP.
To be honest I would probably prefer to pay a little extra (say $50) if it would allow the specs of the phone to be beefed up.
Regarding input method, I probably prefer the touchscreen, however as far as I know the software/code hasn't been implemented into Android for that yet. My only reservations about a physical qwerty keyboard is the potential for increased thickness of the phone (I.e. HTC Touch Pro compared to HTC Touch Diamond)
Posted at 8:19 p.m. on November 23, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
i'm beginning to wonder if this is gonna end up with the category of being a cheap phone! 3 weeks to go and still no picture or specs! hope its slim and light...
would love to hear what Kogan has to say in his next post. cant wait.
Posted at 10:33 p.m. on November 23, 2008
Macca says...
I wouldn't mind spending up to $400 on the thing so long as it represents good value for money. Android still has a lot of teething issues so it will be difficult to sell the handset based on the OS alone. That makes me believe it must have either WiFi or GPS (or both!) in order to have something else going for it.
Rumour has it that the Nokia 5800XM has risen in price dramatically - 279euros to 429euros - in Spain, the first place it's being released. If that price translates and we get an $850 Nokia 5800XM over here, then it's no longer a competitor to this phone.
The new 'budget' LG KP500 will remain a competitor but it lacks WiFi and GPS.
Posted at 8:58 a.m. on November 24, 2008
Macca says...
@R: thanks for posting the link to the interview. I draw everyone's attention to this line:
"Kogan said his Google phone would look similar to the iPhone in that it would be a touch-screen device with no built-in keyboard. He said it would include WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS and a trackball to aid in navigation."
WiFi, GPS, and BT! Kogan if you can do this and still sell at $199 then you won't be able to build enough to keep up with demand. I'd take two for starters.
Posted at 3:02 p.m. on November 24, 2008
Ben P says...
@ Macca
I can understand WiFi and GPS, but why are you getting so excited about BT? That was standard about 5 years ago.
Posted at 3:12 p.m. on November 24, 2008
maisics says...
@macca - comment 175
I would like some smartphone typical specs
i wouldn't bother with an ordinary phone.
but the specs u listed sounds close enough to what i want
Posted at 4:02 p.m. on November 24, 2008
Luke Webber says...
I don't think you can go past Andromeda, after the galaxy or after the mythical woman, you decide.
Posted at 5:40 p.m. on November 24, 2008
Ben P says...
More questions that need answering sometime before release:
1) Will the Kogan phone receive updates as Android is tweaked/updated?
2) Who will provide the updates, Google, Kogan, xxx?
3) Is Kogan going to provide continued device support in the form of additional updates?
Posted at 7:49 p.m. on November 24, 2008
Daniel T says...
Ruslan can you tell us if you would be planning a followup phone to your intro model, something in a higher price range with bigger specs? or would iti have to be a decision based on the reception/success of this original model?
Posted at 8:30 p.m. on November 24, 2008
man_on_the_moon says...
If you were still in the process of finalizing component selection last month then I have a hard time believing you'll be able to meet Dec 15th for release. Component lead time alone would cause you problems, not to mention, manufacturing, testing, compliance testing, packaging, manuals, etc...
Putting this discusion slap-bang on your homepage seems like a great way to bump your website hit-rate/viewing in the run up to the holiday season.
I'd love for you to prove me wrong, heck I'd buy a few myself, but I'm highly doubting you'll make that date...
Posted at 5:59 a.m. on November 25, 2008
Macca says...
@R: Agreed - this looks like a show-stopper as far as an on-screen keyboard goes. Either Kogan makes a customisation to the software and doesn't support regular Android updates (which would eventually include it's own on-screen keyboard in Q1/Q2 2009) or Kogan offers an Android phone with a physical keyboard and does support ongoing Android updates.
Either way I can't see how this phone can be released 20 days from now if specs haven't even been finalised. Sounds like Kogan is still very early in the process of getting this to market.
Posted at 12:57 p.m. on November 25, 2008
aj P says...
I know you've all missed me...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/24/zzzphone-now-shipping-...
There is no way he is goin to make it happen.... unique to kogan that is...
I have always said he will be bringing in the G2 knock off from china....
Sorry ruslan.... you are yet to prove anyone wrong or right for that matter....
Just puffing smoke up your rear..... lets if Gerry Harvey laggs you out for over promising under delivering....
big ocean for small fish with big mouths.
Posted at 1:40 p.m. on November 25, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
@ aj P
u never know! and whats wrong with u? u should get a life dude. lets wait until 15 dec and say what u want if there's anything left for u.
@Ruslan
do update us on the progress...
Posted at 8:34 a.m. on November 26, 2008
Ben P says...
Really, if you think about it, it wouldn't be a massive shock if the device wasn't delivered on time. Delays are constantly occurring in the tech would. Just look at the Blackberry Storm, or almost any big name computer game. Delays happen, and they are usually unavoidable and out of your control. Saying that, I would be more than happy for Kogan to prove everyone wrong.
Posted at 10:26 a.m. on November 26, 2008
Algenon says...
What about calling it the "Koogan"
Posted at 3:11 p.m. on November 26, 2008
Micky says...
I vote for K3G (Pronounced Keg).
Failing that, the KogaMaPhone is a damn funny choice.
We get the picture aj Douche, your in love with Gerry Harvey, tell someone who cares. We're only interested with the facts, not every chinese clone phone you can find on the net.
Posted at 4:17 p.m. on November 26, 2008
Nick says...
K1 and KPhone are unoriginal names - I wouldn't recommend them at all. They make the products feel unattractive and as if they're riding off another company's success.
I wouldn't mind Kogan Horizon as 'surf' said, but Ben P's suggestions are good as well. ;D
Posted at 6:14 p.m. on November 26, 2008
R. says...
I hadn't seen this one: Kogan Horizon would be a great name indeed!
Posted at 7:38 p.m. on November 26, 2008
Alana says...
I really cant think of an original name for this phone.....mmmm...... without making it sound like something someone else has already thought of......also i dont think it should have heaps of numbers in the name YUCCKO!!...... So my vote is for the K3G acca The "KEG".....This name is so easy to remember, how more Aussie can you get!!!! I reckon "THE KEG"...Cant wait to see it SOON!
P.S second choice "KogaMaPhone" love it....lol
Posted at 10:17 p.m. on November 26, 2008
maisics says...
koogle or k3g
Posted at 7:56 a.m. on November 27, 2008
Random Agreeing Guy says...
Yeah, another vote here for K3G
Posted at 11:42 a.m. on November 27, 2008
Macca says...
1. Kogan Horizon
2. K3G (aka KEG - a very youth-oriented naming style)
3. KogaMaPhone (This is gold! The phone will forever be called this in my mind from now on)
Posted at 12:26 p.m. on November 27, 2008
Daniel T says...
Well the buzz appears to be winding down. Me, I got my $200 ready to go, I just want to play with the Android OS, I don`t give a crap if the phone doesn`t contain everything, come-on lets get something already, its just under 3 weeks to "launch" date, can we see something?? Anything??
Posted at 4:45 p.m. on November 27, 2008
Ben P says...
I agree with Daniel T, with need updates on how the device is going so people can maintain their interest. Even if its just draft specs or concept drawings of the device.
Posted at 6:57 p.m. on November 27, 2008
Uni says...
The 'Grogan'
Posted at 7:29 p.m. on November 27, 2008
Kogan Vapourware says...
The OpenMoko team have been engineering and developing the hardware and software for their 1973 and Neo handsets for considerably longer time than it takes to grab some publicity by making almost believable statements about being able to deliver a new handset before Christmas, and even they are not all ironed out of bugs. And the Neo can hold Android on it to some extent.
I don't see this coming to anything other than getting bounce hits to the other wares on here.
Of course you could have a sweet deal going on, what's up your sleeve Ruslan?
Posted at 11:18 p.m. on November 27, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
15 days and no sign of life....!!
Posted at 5:45 a.m. on November 28, 2008
Blunt says...
An update on date as 15 Dec is looking doubtful? Specs? Pics? Anything at all?
Posted at 9:46 a.m. on November 28, 2008
Chris says...
I have the money ready and waiting :)
Posted at 11:48 a.m. on November 28, 2008
Chris says...
For $200, we can't expect much. People are referring to the iPhone as a base for their wishlists (touchscreen, >3in screen, WiFi, accelerometer etc), but forget the iPhone costs >$1000 outright. My 6120c has no touchscreen, no WiFi, 2in screen etc and they're still $350ish last time I checked.
The only questions I really want to ask Ruslan are:
1. Will it be NextG-compatible (850MHz)?
2. Will it use the new standard micro-USB connector for data and power? This will be an important one I believe, Nokia's new phones already have it and soon everyone will.
3. Apparently you've said it won't have a physical keyboard - can we assume touchscreen?
4. How much internal storage will it have, and is it compatible with microSDHC (assuming it uses SD)?
I ask these questions because IMO they're the most important, and I know they can be answered right now because the hardware (chipset, screen etc) has been locked down. At least I hope so. Which leads me onto the last question:
5. Will it actually be available before Xmas? Because if you're still designing the cosmetics and/or packaging 2 weeks out from the release date, that's running it extremely fine. Assuming of course the phone hardware itself is actually finalised, tested and accredited. If not, you've got Buckley's of a 2008 release.
Posted at 12:06 p.m. on November 28, 2008
Toyni says...
Here's a good name:
'Publicity Stunt 2008'
Posted at 12:13 a.m. on November 29, 2008
maisics says...
i vote against the grogan
Posted at 5:35 p.m. on November 29, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
i6 goal seems promising. wonder how the pricing would be! the design could have been better though and a slimmer than that.
anyways where is Ruslan?/?
Posted at 11:58 p.m. on November 30, 2008
Daniel T says...
The i6 you have put links to appears to not be 3G. Ruslan has said that the Kogan phone will be a 3G model, hasn`t specifically given us any frequencies it`ll work on, but he has said it will be 3G, Ruslan, its 15 days to D-Day, got anything you can show us?
Posted at 12:34 a.m. on December 1, 2008
C says...
Updated Release Date:
Christmas 2009!
Probably by a company other than Kogan
Posted at 3:36 a.m. on December 1, 2008
De Schreut (NL) says...
Googie would be a nice name....
Easy on the tongue, yet fully descriptive.
Posted at 8:33 a.m. on December 1, 2008
Blunt says...
I second the Grogan. 15 days out and I have more chance on making a call on a steaming hot homemade Grogan.
Posted at 9:47 a.m. on December 1, 2008
aj P says...
I rekon its going to be a cup with a Kogan stamp and a piece of string! (second cup optional)
Posted at 10:38 a.m. on December 1, 2008
Blunt says...
I really hope that this phone happens and soon. It is a little concerning that we haven't heard anything yet, even if it is an updated date. The pre-sale for the Kogan Blu-ray player was listed long before release, yet we haven't even heard anything, if it was close you would think that we should have seen something by now.
I feel sorry for anyone who has this on my Xmas list as they will have some very last minute shopping to do.
Given the infrequency of Ruslan's updates, I'm not sure if you doesn't check this blog often or he just doesn't care.
Make me a believer Ruslan and I'll place my order - or at least level with us about the progress.
Posted at 11:05 a.m. on December 1, 2008
Macca says...
Hey dudes,
Let's not get our hopes up on this. Whilst we all want it to happen the likelyhood of having a phone manufactured that meets Australian standards within a 6 week time window is basically zero.
As the hater 'aj' was saying, it's more likely Ruslan will purchase an existing handset and re-brand it. That's fine, but just let us know when it will be released!
Posted at 2:51 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Blunt says...
Agreed Macca, I'm no hater, I'm just very interested in the device and would love an update so I don't have to check this blog everyday.
Posted at 3:29 p.m. on December 1, 2008
aj P says...
lol....
I am still sure that was the fone Kogan had in mind... u know which one that wasnt hating bud
Posted at 5:01 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Hamish says...
Actually guys, this IS doable. The chinese manufacturers are already producing potential kogan android phones. All he has to do it write kogan on the front and import heaps of them.
http://www.itechnews.net/2008/11/22/sciphone-dream-g2-and...
http://www.itechnews.net/2008/11/28/qigi-i6-dual-os-andro...
Don't know if he'll get it done by xmas though....
Posted at 6:16 p.m. on December 1, 2008
R. says...
Regardless of how he does it, what we want is some news... a release date, some specs, a note saying he'll be late... anything!
Come on Ruslan - it's been a few weeks, and you said "I'll release more details as soon as I can confirm everything". Thanks!
Posted at 7:32 p.m. on December 1, 2008
R. says...
Yes, it's probably not a rebranded i6! I meant the i6 could be a nice option if Kogan's one doesn't show up on time for Christmas :)
I think I remember reading something about Ruslan gathering components... I too hope it's going to include 3G WiFi and GPS as promised!
Posted at 8:13 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Pawan says...
Guys lets be realistic, I think either the phone is ready but does not match the specs we all are talking about. (may be becos of the price constrain) and so Kogan is trying to get some thing nice (balancing the price and quality)
or
Kogan is facing real problems with h/w or s/w (Android working properly on his phone as pointed earlier) and so he is not releasing any further details. It would easy to postpone dates now rather releasing more specs (build the excitement) and not able to reach the goal.
Any more thoughts
Posted at 10:39 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Pawan says...
But I personally want him to be successful just becos of the sheer love for open source, free products, Google, people who dare to be different, etc..
Waiting ... :)
Posted at 10:43 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Flying Wombat says...
With Strathfield now marketing a full HD movie camera that looks identical to the "Kogan" - and cheaper - it looks as though the "Kogan" suppliers aren't fussy about who they supply - as long as they have the cash - add to that the fact tthat no-one at the ACMA seems to know anything about a "Kogan-phone" up for approval for use in Oz - it all looks as though the wheels are coming off things at the moment......
Posted at 11:10 p.m. on December 1, 2008
Thijs says...
ko-phone?
Posted at 5:54 a.m. on December 2, 2008
Schultzy says...
G1K
or Koogle
Posted at 9:30 a.m. on December 2, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
Hi everyone,
Sorry for the lack of replies -- I've been out of the country to make sure this happens.
I will have all the details you want (and need!) very shortly. I will be making the full announcement within the next week.
I appreciate everyone's support and patience. I can't wait to get this product to the market!
Cheers
Posted at 10:19 a.m. on December 2, 2008
chuksy says...
That's what a talking about.Can't wait to see what the specs looks like.Pls the sooner you release the specs the better
Posted at 11:05 a.m. on December 2, 2008
Macca says...
Looking forward to hearing more about it. Hopefully this thing becomes a reality and offers some real competition to the many cheap touchscreen phones entering the market early next year.
Posted at 11:06 a.m. on December 2, 2008
Ajit says...
How about naming it the G SPOT!!!
Posted at 12:48 p.m. on December 2, 2008
woppa says...
Macca your spot on the money, I don't mind being an early adopter of technology so long as I'm not left in the dust 6 months later.
Now I'll see you all here next week for the announcement (I'll be happy if it's just an order form)
Posted at 1:43 p.m. on December 2, 2008
Macca says...
This phone needs to be upgradeable when new versions of Android are released. Without this ability I believe this phone won't be worth buying since there are loads of quirks yet to be fixed in Android.
Looking forward to seeing some specs!
Posted at 4:55 p.m. on December 2, 2008
Henry says...
Finally, word from the man himself (no one is so cruel as to impersonate are they?!)
i like the idea of pulling a phone out of my pocket and offering: "this is my KOG"
Posted at 6:53 p.m. on December 2, 2008
letsburn00 says...
I hope that when they get the first phones they send two or three to some review sites. 2 at a time so the site can compare the standby and the operating time. I want to get one ASAP as long as it isn't a total lemon. Odds are the reviews will be just like the one for the Kogan HD camera, It's got problems, but at that price it's a great deal.
Posted at 9:19 p.m. on December 2, 2008
Montalbert says...
can't wait for this one but support with upgrades etc is a must have!! i am intrigued as to the specs of the phone........
Posted at 9:46 p.m. on December 2, 2008
Aningbo Niumai says...
finally from the man himself. (i hope its not somebody impersonating)
cant wait to get the specs and of course wanna see how it looks like. i leave for vacation in the morning and will still be in touch with this thread :)
Posted at 12:04 a.m. on December 3, 2008
James says...
I hope the phone includes the Android Market application.
Posted at 12:50 a.m. on December 3, 2008
Andrew says...
December already and no real information? VAPORWARE!
Posted at 5:44 a.m. on December 3, 2008
Mal says...
I'm with Kandroid
I thought of it BEFORE I saw it mentioned in two posts, which is a
good sign that it has a natural association.
The Kan in Kandroid has at least several meanings I can think of:
1. Can, as in can do.
2. Can, as in a can, like a robot, which is made of metal.
3. The K is obviously a reminder that it is a Kogan device.
4. Can 'Droid, i.e., can be an android.
Posted at 10:15 a.m. on December 3, 2008
R. says...
I wouldn't recommend Kandroid for the same reasons I wouldn't recommend Koogle. It makes it look like phone has no identity of its own, and owes everything to the fact that it's powered by Google Android. But at least it's better than "look I'm a cheap copy" K1.
I also think this name will sound a bit silly or pretentious in a few months when there will be a lot of Android phones on the market.
I would still stick with Kogan Horizon, classy sounding and meaningful as well, or the K3G for a more catchy / youth oriented name.
Posted at 11:41 a.m. on December 3, 2008
David says...
Don't forget guys,, about copyrights on some of those names like koogle and stuff like that..
I would call it something else to what kogan is,, its not like samsung named there new Omnia phone... sumnia or Lg's Renoir... LGenoir... I rekn it should be something else besides Kdroid or definitely Kphone (man apple will be all over your ass on copyrights)
Some Ideas::::
"Kogan "Dominator"
or this is a good name, if used in a ad or slogan................
"Kogan "Intuition" the next sixth sense in phones" (I like)....
or "Kogan "Intuition" the inner voice in you" (lol)
or if you wanna move back to knames,, maybe
"Telko" phone lol as in telco
Posted at 1:29 p.m. on December 3, 2008
David St says...
o yeah i just noticed there being another david on the forum soo my previous comment Kogan "Intuition" is by this username now.... so no one gets confused..
Posted at 1:33 p.m. on December 3, 2008
D says...
I reckon a name along the lines of 'Horizon' would be great, perhaps a combination so something like K3G Horizon or K3G Cirrus.
Posted at 2 p.m. on December 3, 2008
mattis says...
Still looking at getting this in-stock before xmas?
Posted at 2:51 p.m. on December 3, 2008
Sumdumphuc says...
Dalek should be the name for this Android.
Davros is no more, Kogan is the new Darlek creator.
Posted at 3:37 p.m. on December 3, 2008
John says...
Vaporware certainly comes to my mind.
Posted at 4:33 p.m. on December 3, 2008
Eduardo says...
I suppose Android K1 sounds okay - techie and Kogan related one.
Posted at 9:28 p.m. on December 3, 2008
Roosta says...
I say call it the Special K and get Ben Cousins to advertise it.
Posted at 12:55 a.m. on December 4, 2008
aj P says...
$199?
Xmas?
you mean 299 dispatched well after xmas.....
We should call asher moses of Australian IT section and let him know he was roped in by this BS
In any case the phone actually looks ok!
Batt life????
Posted at 9:29 a.m. on December 4, 2008
Ben P says...
The information on the Kogan Agora mobile range has been released!
Posted at 9:43 a.m. on December 4, 2008
Blunt says...
Some much for $199 and "Kogan said his Google phone would look similar to the iPhone in that it would be a touch-screen device with no built-in keyboard. He said it would include WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS and a trackball to aid in navigation."
Maybe if the $299 model had the wifi and GPS the $199 model was supposed to have, instead it is now $399 or $432 by the time it is delivered.
I understand the inclusion of a physical keyboard due to androids current limitations and currency movements have probably effected the price, I just didn't expect it to be double (for the REAL version).
That said the finished product and specs look good for what is it, just a bit much for me that was going to be a stop-gap phone to avoid me breaking my current contract which is a year off expiry. I'll wait for the reviews.
Does anyone know if android/this phone supports MMS, Video on the camera, copy/paste, messages to multiple recipients? These are the features that the iPhone lacks but are on the must have list for me.
Posted at 10:14 a.m. on December 4, 2008
Macca says...
@aj: How's that humble pie tasting?
Posted at 11:21 a.m. on December 4, 2008
David (yes another one) says...
yeah pretty dissapointed about the price... all marketing hype. no real specs on the phones grunt either or compatable frequencies. I'd be more inclined to get one if the screen was 3.5" with all the pro features was for the promised price of $199.
Posted at 11:59 a.m. on December 4, 2008
aj P says...
Doesnt eat pie...
Not $199 not in time for xmas...
but.... I think it looks yummy.... would def snatch it on ebay for 199 lol
thats only when the kogan overlords moderators take a kit kat break
Posted at 12:18 p.m. on December 4, 2008
gps batteries says...
Admirably fine performance!
pdaaccessories.com
Posted at 9:28 p.m. on December 5, 2008
Jiri says...
I am very disappointed by KOGAN AGORA PRO MOBILE.
This is simple ugly blackberry phone. Full touch screen would be much better.
For the price it is not worth it.
Jiri
Posted at 10:10 p.m. on December 5, 2008
Gary Welsh says...
Your Brand needs to part of the Name.
How about Kogan "Gphone"
Posted at 10:32 p.m. on December 5, 2008
coop says...
Kogan Gphone sounds good
Posted at 10:57 p.m. on December 5, 2008
Skyborg says...
Hi folks,
Agora, like you named it, like published in german press, sounds good and could also stand for a new branch against the "no (i)nterest(Phone)." If the handy is simlock and netlock free, we will order for sure a minimum of 10 right before christmas.
Best greetz from Germany, wishing all here a merry x-mas and a happy new year,
Posted at 5:18 a.m. on December 6, 2008
Julius says...
Damn, I hate all "brick" qwerty style phones. I prefer those with a silde to get into the keybord.
KoGarcha should be the name.
Posted at 2:35 a.m. on December 7, 2008
dizzy b says...
Kliq
Posted at 3:39 p.m. on December 7, 2008
Cameron says...
Since information isn't as forthcoming as I had hoped can you answer one question for me... when will you have review units in the hands of the media, and can you possibly provide a list of the media outlets you are distributing them to?
Posted at 11:05 a.m. on December 8, 2008
Valentijn says...
Please have a decent camera not 2MP in 2009 !!! And an option for reasonable navigation software
Posted at 5:40 p.m. on December 9, 2008
Ruslan Kogan says...
Hi Cameron,
Apologies -- I've been keeping more of an eye on the other (newer) thread about the Agora phone.
I will make a blog post as soon as we have a media evaluation of it, I'm hoping it'll be very soon and accompanied by a video so you can see it in action.
Posted at 2:07 p.m. on December 10, 2008
Amit says...
I will Vote for K1... sounds like a good name to me!
Please provide some screenshots or specs for the phone.
Thanks Kogan. You guys rule!
Posted at 4:23 p.m. on December 10, 2008
David says...
Hey how is the name AK 47
A is for Android and K for Kogan and AK 47 is known as the killing machine so when u launch this product with $199 it will kill the market for all the latest phones like IPHONE and IMATE S and BLUEBARRY S so you can call it
AK47
THINK ABOUT IT
Regards
Posted at 1:12 a.m. on December 20, 2008
Kit says...
Kogan Informa
Posted at 3:10 p.m. on December 20, 2008
Stuart says...
Ruslan I have a name for your phone. Please allow me 5 minutes of your time as I would very much like a one on one meeting with you @ your convienience.
stuau@yahoo.com
Posted at 2:49 p.m. on January 20, 2009
tsgqxdpy says...
<urlsWithURL>
Posted at 10:26 p.m. on January 31, 2009
steve says...
It's well past Christmas and I still don't see a phone on your store's phone section.
I guess it didn't happen.
Steve
Posted at 6:24 p.m. on February 28, 2009
Todd says...
Kogan G1
Posted at 3:39 p.m. on March 5, 2009
Dave says...
How about calling it "K - Oops!" ?
Seriously, how can you take orders for a phone that hasn't even functioned yet? By the way, you guys should take down this webpage because it's rather embarassing to leave it up.
Posted at 8:24 a.m. on March 17, 2009
Paul says...
What happened to your new beaut phone mate ! Easters on the way you missed one religious holiday heres another chance ! !!! ;-)
Posted at 6:43 p.m. on March 23, 2009
Sebastian says...
Although the delay is regrettable, delays are common in this market. Given the huge drop in the export market of China, there are considerable delays in transport of goods. As such this tends to slow down the production of any equipment.
Kogan has consistently tried to produce good quality items at affordable prices. No wonder that this sometimes means a delay in production.
No I don't work for Kogan!
sebastiaan@gmail.com
Posted at 10:16 p.m. on March 27, 2009
nBJGzsPItWcrOi says...
VQFcNk
Posted at 9:28 a.m. on April 14, 2009
Birrra says...
Shame this didn't hapen.
"Sigh" the Kogan Agora was never to be other than a dream.
But it is true that the cupcake android update would of been awkward with the virtual keyboard etc.
Let's hope that some other company will someday come up with a nice, cheap, Android phone.
This could of had so much success.
Posted at 3:21 a.m. on April 21, 2009
Ckpink says...
Seems some have given up already !
In my book Good things come to those who wait !!! :)
Posted at 9:56 a.m. on April 22, 2009
Taylor says...
yer maybe the KPhone or something like the phone would be the ultimate if you make it fast, lots of memory WIFI, bluetooth, touch screen but a few nav keys, WIDGETS, lots of cool downloadable games and apps yeah! im lookin foward to this fone already btw keep me posted cheese_burger_01@hotmail.com
thanks
Posted at 5:49 p.m. on June 30, 2009
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